#+OPTIONS: H:3 num:nil toc:t #+TITLE: rorg --- Code evaluation in org-mode, with an emphasis on R #+SEQ_TODO: TODO OPEN PROPOSED | DONE DEFERRED REJECTED #+STARTUP: oddeven * Tasks [9/20] ** TODO results-type header (scalar/vector) In response to a point in Dan's email. We should allow the user to force scalar or vector results. This could be done with a header argument, and the default behavior could be controlled through a configuration variable. ** TODO use textConnection to pass tsv to R? When passing args from the org buffer to R, the following route is used: arg in buffer -> elisp -> tsv on file -> data frame in R. I think it would be possible to avoid having to write to file by constructing an R expression in litorgy-R-assign-elisp, something like this #+begin_src emacs-lisp (litorgy-R-input-command (format "%s <- read.table(textConnection(\"%s\"), sep=\"\\t\", as.is=TRUE)" name (orgtbl-to-tsv value '(:sep "\t" :fmt litorgy-R-quote-tsv-field)))) #+end_src I haven't tried to implement this yet as it's basically just fiddling with something that works. The only reason for it I can think of would be efficiency and I haven't tested that. [Eric] Sounds like a good idea, I'll bump this up to TODO ** TODO re-implement R evaluation using ess-command or ess-execute I don't have any complaints with the current R evaluation code or behaviour, but I think it would be good to use the ESS functions from a political point of view. Plus of course it has the normal benefits of an API (insulates us from any underlying changes etc). [DED] [Eric] I'll look into this. I believe that I looked at and rejected these functions initially but now I can't remember why. I agree with your overall point about using API's where available. I will take a look back at these and either switch to using the ess commands, or at least articulate under this TODO the reasons for using our custom R-interaction commands. ** TODO share litorgy how should we share litorgy? - post to org-mode and ess mailing lists - create a litorgy page on worg - create a short screencast demonstrating litorgy in action *** examples we need to think up some good examples **** interactive tutorials This could be a place to use [[* litorgical assertions][litorgical assertions]]. for example the first step of a tutorial could assert that the version of the software-package (or whatever) is equal to some value, then source-code blocks could be used with confidence (and executed directly from) the rest of the tutorial. **** answering a text-book question w/code example litorgy is an ideal environment enabling both the development and demonstrationg of the code snippets required as answers to many text-book questions. **** something using tables maybe something along the lines of calculations from collected grades **** file sizes Maybe something like the following which outputs sizes of directories under the home directory, and then instead of the trivial =emacs-lisp= block we could use an R block to create a nice pie chart of the results. #+srcname: sizes #+begin_src bash :results replace du -sc ~/* #+end_src #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var sizes=sizes :results replace (mapcar #'car sizes) #+end_src ** TODO litorgy tests litorgy [0/1] since we are accumulating this nice collection of source-code blocks in the sandbox section we should make use of them as unit tests. What's more, we should be able to actually use litorgy to run these tests. We would just need to cycle over every source code block under the sandbox, run it, and assert that the return value is equal to what we expect. I have the feeling that this should be possible using only litorgical functions with minimal or no additional elisp. It would be very cool for litorgy to be able to test itself. *** TODO litorgical assertions These could be used to make assertions about the results of a source-code block. If the assertion fails then the point could be moved to the block, and error messages and highlighting etc... could ensue ** TODO inline source code blocks [3/5] Like the =\R{ code }= blocks not sure what the format should be, maybe just something simple like =src_lang[]{}= where lang is the name of the source code language to be evaluated, =[]= is optional and contains any header arguments and ={}= contains the code. (see [[* (sandbox) inline source blocks][the-sandbox]]) *** DONE evaluation with \C-c\C-c Putting aside the header argument issue for now we can just run these with the following default header arguments - =:results= :: silent - =:exports= :: results *** DONE inline exportation Need to add an interblock hook (or some such) through org-exp-blocks *** DONE header arguments We should make it possible to use header arguments. *** TODO fontification we should color these blocks differently *** TODO refine html exportation should use a span class, and should show original source in tool-tip ** TODO figure out how to handle graphic output This is listed under [[* graphical output][graphical output]] in out objectives. How should this work for R? For example how are files included with Sweave? Would/Should we just mimic the behavior of Sweave with the addition of support for poping up graphics during live evaluation of a source code block. I think the best way to approach this would be to start with an example R source-code block and then work up from there. ** TODO ability to select which of multiple sessions is being used Increasingly it is looking like we're going to want to run all source code blocks in comint buffer (sessions). Which will have the benefits of 1) allowing background execution 2) maintaining state between source-blocks - allowing inline blocks w/o header arguments *** R sessions (like ess-switch-process in .R buffers) Maybe this could be packaged into a header argument, something like =:R_session= which could accept either the name of the session to use, or the string =prompt=, in which case we could use the =ess-switch-process= command to select a new process. ** TODO evaluation of shell code as background process? After C-c C-c on an R code block, the process may appear to block, but C-g can be used to reclaim control of the .org buffer, without interrupting the R evalution. However I believe this is not true of bash/sh evaluation. [Haven't tried other languages] Perhaps a solution is just to background the individual shell commands. The other languages (aside from emacs lisp) are run through the shell, so if we find a shell solution it should work for them as well. Adding an ampersand seems to be a supported way to run commands in the background (see [[http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ExecuteExternalCommand#toc4][external-commands]]). Although a more extensible solution may involve the use of the [[elisp:(progn (describe-function 'call-process-region) nil)][call-process-region]] function. Going to try this out in a new file [[file:litorgy/litorgy-proc.el][litorgy-proc.el]]. This should contain functions for asynchronously running generic shell commands in the background, and then returning their input. *** partial update of org-mode buffer The sleekest solution to this may be using a comint buffer, and then defining a filter function which would incrementally interpret the results as they are returned, including insertion into the org-mode buffer. This may actually cause more problems than it is worth, what with the complexities of identifying the types of incrementally returned results, and the need for maintenance of a process marker in the org buffer. *** 'working' spinner It may be nice and not too difficult to place a spinner on/near the evaluating source code block ** TODO conversion of output from interactive shell, R (and python) sessions to litorgy buffers [DED] This would be a nice feature I think. Although a litorgy purist would say that it's working the wrong way round... After some interactive work in a *R* buffer, you save the buffer, maybe edit out some lines, and then convert it to litorgy format for posterity. Same for a shell session either in a *shell* buffer, or pasted from another terminal emulator. And python of course. ** PROPOSED re-implement helper functions from org-R Much of the power of org-R seems to be in it's helper functions for the quick graphing of tables. Should we try to re-implement these functions on top of litorgy? I'm thinking this may be useful both to add features to litorgy-R and also to potentially suggest extensions of the framework. For example one that comes to mind is the ability to treat a source-code block like a function which accepts arguments and returns results. Actually this can be it's own TODO (see [[* source blocks as functions][source blocks as functions]]). ** DONE make C-c C-c work anywhere within source code block? This seems like it would be nice to me, but perhaps it would be inefficient or ugly in implementation? I suppose you could search forward, and if you find #+end_src before you find #+begin_src, then you're inside one. [DED] Agreed, I think inside of the =#+srcname: line= would be useful as well. #+srcname: testing-out-cc #+begin_src emacs-lisp 'schulte #+end_src ** DONE integration with org tables We should make it easy to call litorgy source blocks from org-mode table formulas. This is practical now that it is possible to pass arguments to litorgical source blocks. See the related [[* (sandbox) integration w/org tables][sandbox]] header for tests/examples. *** digging in org-table.el In the past [[file:~/src/org/lisp/org-table.el::org%20table%20el%20The%20table%20editor%20for%20Org%20mode][org-table.el]] has proven difficult to work with. Should be a hook in [[file:~/src/org/lisp/org-table.el::defun%20org%20table%20eval%20formula%20optional%20arg%20equation][org-table-eval-formula]]. Looks like I need to change this [[file:~/src/org/lisp/org-table.el::if%20lispp][if statement]] (line 2239) into a cond expression. ** DONE source blocks as functions Allow source code blocks to be called like functions, with arguments specified. We are already able to call a source-code block and assign it's return result to a variable. This would just add the ability to specify the values of the arguments to the source code block assuming any exist. For an example see When a variable appears in a header argument, how do we differentiate between it's value being a reference or a literal value? I guess this could work just like a programming language. If it's escaped or in quotes, then we count it as a literal, otherwise we try to look it up and evaluate it. ** DONE folding of code blocks? [2/2] [DED] In similar way to using outline-minor-mode for folding function bodies, can we fold code blocks? #+begin whatever statements are pretty ugly, and in any case when you're thinking about the overall game plan you don't necessarily want to see the code for each Step. *** DONE folding of source code block Sounds good, and wasn't too hard to implement. Code blocks should now be fold-able in the same manner as headlines (by pressing TAB on the first line). *** REJECTED folding of results So, lets do a three-stage tab cycle... First fold the src block, then fold the results, then unfold. There's no way to tell if the results are a table or not w/o actually executing the block which would be too expensive of an operation. ** DONE selective export of text, code, figures [DED] The litorgy buffer contains everything (code, headings and notes/prose describing what you're up to, textual/numeric/graphical code output, etc). However on export to html / LaTeX one might want to include only a subset of that content. For example you might want to create a presentation of what you've done which omits the code. [EMS] So I think this should be implemented as a property which can be set globally or on the outline header level (I need to review the mechanics of org-mode properties). And then as a source block header argument which will apply only to a specific source code block. A header argument of =:export= with values of - =code= :: just show the code in the source code block - =none= :: don't show the code or the results of the evaluation - =results= :: just show the results of the code evaluation (don't show the actual code) - =both= :: show both the source code, and the results this will be done in [[* (sandbox) selective export][(sandbox) selective export]]. ** DONE a header argument specifying silent evaluation (no output) This would be useful across all types of source block. Currently there is a =:replace t= option to control output, this could be generalized to an =:output= option which could take the following options (maybe more) - =t= :: this would be the default, and would simply insert the results after the source block - =replace= :: to replace any results which may already be there - =silent= :: this would inhibit any insertion of the results This is now implemented see the example in the [[* silent evaluation][sandbox]] ** DONE assign variables from tables in R This is now working (see [[* (sandbox table) R][(sandbox-table)-R]]). Although it's not that impressive until we are able to print table results from R. ** DONE insert 2-D R results as tables everything is working but R and shell *** DONE shells *** DONE R This has already been tackled by Dan in [[file:existing_tools/org-R.el::defconst%20org%20R%20write%20org%20table%20def][org-R:check-dimensions]]. The functions there should be useful in combination with [[http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-data.html#Export-to-text-files][R-export-to-csv]] as a means of converting multidimensional R objects to emacs lisp. It may be as simple as first checking if the data is multidimensional, and then, if so using =write= to write the data out to a temporary file from which emacs can read the data in using =org-table-import=. Looking into this further, is seems that there is no such thing as a scalar in R [[http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/03a/3733.html][R-scalar-vs-vector]]. In that light I am not sure how to deal with trivial vectors (scalars) in R. I'm tempted to just treat them as vectors, but then that would lead to a proliferation of trivial 1-cell tables... ** DONE allow variable initialization from source blocks Currently it is possible to initialize a variable from an org-mode table with a block argument like =table=sandbox= (note that the variable doesn't have to named =table=) as in the following example #+TBLNAME: sandbox | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | schulte | 6 | #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=sandbox :results replace (message (format "table = %S" table)) #+end_src : "table = ((1 2 3) (4 \"schulte\" 6))" It would be good to allow initialization of variables from the results of other source blocks in the same manner. This would probably require the addition of =#+SRCNAME: example= lines for the naming of source blocks, also the =table=sandbox= syntax may have to be expanded to specify whether the target is a source code block or a table (alternately we could just match the first one with the given name whether it's a table or a source code block). At least initially I'll try to implement this so that there is no need to specify whether the reference is to a table or a source-code block. That seems to be simpler both in terms of use and implementation. This is now working for emacs-lisp, ruby and python (and mixtures of the three) source blocks. See the examples in the [[* (sandbox) referencing other source blocks][sandbox]]. This is currently working only with emacs lisp as in the following example in the [[* emacs lisp source reference][emacs lisp source reference]]. * Bugs [6/8] ** TODO cursor movement when evaluating source blocks E.g. the pie chart example. Despite the save-window-excursion in litorgy-execute:R. (I never learned how to do this properly: org-R jumps all over the place...) ** TODO with :results replace, non-table output doesn't replace table output And vice versa. E.g. Try this first with table and then with len(table) [DED] #+begin_src python :var table=sandbox :results replace table #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | "schulte" | 6 | : 2 Yes, this is certainly a problem. I fear that if we begin replacing anything immediately following a source block (regardless of whether it matches the type of our current results) we may accidentally delete hand written portions of the user's org-mode buffer. I think that the best solution here would be to actually start labeling results with a line that looks something like... #+results: name This would have a couple of benefits... 1) we wouldn't have to worry about possibly deleting non-results (which is currently an issue) 2) we could reliably replace results even if there are different types 3) we could reference the results of a source-code block in variable definitions, which would be useful if for example we don't wish to re-run a source-block every time because it is long-running. Thoughts? If no-one objects, I believe I will implement the labeling of results. ** DEFERRED org bug/request: prevent certain org behaviour within code blocks E.g. [[]] gets recognised as a link (when there's text inside the brackets). This is bad for R code at least, and more generally could be argued to be inappropriate. Is it difficult to get org to ignore text in code blocks? [DED] I believe Carsten addressed this recently on the mailing list with the comment that it was indeed a difficult issue. I believe this may be one area where we could wait for an upstream (org-mode) fix. ** DONE extra quotes for nested string Well R appears to be reading the tables without issue... these *should* be quoted #+srcname: ls #+begin_src sh :results replace ls #+end_src | "COPYING" | | "README.markdown" | | "block" | | "examples.org" | | "existing_tools" | | "intro.org" | | "litorgy" | | "rorg.org" | | "test-export.html" | | "test-export.org" | #+srcname: test-quotes #+begin_src ruby :var tab=ls tab[1][0] #+end_src : README.markdown #+srcname: test-quotes #+begin_src R :var tab=ls as.matrix(tab[2,]) #+end_src : README.markdown ** DONE simple ruby arrays not working As an example eval the following. Adding a line to test #+srcname: simple-ruby-array #+begin_src ruby [3, 4, 5] #+end_src #+srcname: ruby-array-test #+begin_src ruby :var ar = simple-ruby-array ar.first #+end_src ** DONE space trailing language name fix regexp so it works when there's a space trailing the language name #+srcname: test-trailing-space #+begin_src ruby :schulte #+end_src ** DONE Args out of range error The following block resulted in the error below [DED]. It ran without error directly in the shell. #+begin_src sh cd ~/work/genopca for platf in ill aff ; do for pop in CEU YRI ASI ; do rm -f $platf/hapmap-genos-$pop-all $platf/hapmap-rs-all cat $platf/hapmap-genos-$pop-* > $platf/hapmap-genos-$pop-all cat $platf/hapmap-rs-* > $platf/hapmap-rs-all done done #+end_src executing source block with sh... finished executing source block string-equal: Args out of range: "", -1, 0 the error =string-equal: Args out of range: "", -1, 0= looks like what used to be output when the block returned an empty results string. This should be fixed in the current version, you should now see the following message =no result returned by source block=. ** DONE ruby arrays not recognized as such Something is wrong in [[file:litorgy/litorgy-script.el]] related to the recognition of ruby arrays as such. #+begin_src ruby :results replace [1, 2, 3, 4] #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | #+begin_src python :results replace [1, 2, 3, 4] #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | * Tests Evaluate all the cells in this table for a comprehensive test of the litorgy functionality. #+TBLNAME: litorgy-tests | functionality | block | arg | expected | results | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | basic evaluation | | | | | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | emacs lisp | basic-elisp | | 5 | 5 | pass | | shell | basic-shell | | 6 | 6 | pass | | ruby | basic-ruby | | litorgy | litorgy | pass | | python | basic-python | | hello world | hello world | pass | | R | basic-R | | 13 | 13 | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | tables | | | | | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | emacs lisp | table-elisp | | 3 | 3 | pass | | ruby | table-ruby | | 1-2-3 | 1-2-3 | pass | | python | table-python | | 5 | 5 | pass | | R | table-R | | 3.5 | 3.5 | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | source block references | | | | | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | all languages | chained-ref-last | | Array | Array | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | source block functions | | | | | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | emacs lisp | defun-fibb | | fibbd | fibbd | pass | | run over | Fibonacci | 0 | 1 | 1 | pass | | a | Fibonacci | 1 | 1 | 1 | pass | | variety | Fibonacci | 2 | 2 | 2 | pass | | of | Fibonacci | 3 | 3 | 3 | pass | | different | Fibonacci | 4 | 5 | 5 | pass | | arguments | Fibonacci | 5 | 8 | 8 | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | bug fixing | | | | | pass | |-------------------------+------------------+-----+-------------+-------------+------| | simple ruby arrays | ruby-array-test | | 3 | 3 | pass | #+TBLFM: $5='(if (= (length $3) 1) (progn (message (format "running %S" '(sbe $2 (n $3)))) (sbe $2 (n $3))) (sbe $2))::$6='(if (string= $4 $5) "pass" (format "expected %S but was %S" $4 $5)) ** basic tests #+srcname: basic-elisp #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (+ 1 4) #+end_src #+srcname: basic-shell #+begin_src sh :results silent expr 1 + 5 #+end_src #+srcname: basic-ruby #+begin_src ruby :results silent "litorgy" #+end_src #+srcname: basic-python #+begin_src python :results silent 'hello world' #+end_src #+srcname: basic-R #+begin_src R :results silent b <- 9 b + 4 #+end_src ** read tables #+tblname: test-table | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | 5 | 6 | #+srcname: table-elisp #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent :var table=test-table (length (car table)) #+end_src #+srcname: table-ruby #+begin_src ruby :results silent :var table=test-table table.first.join("-") #+end_src #+srcname: table-python #+begin_src python :var table=test-table table[1][1] #+end_src #+srcname: table-R #+begin_src R :var table=test-table mean(mean(table)) #+end_src ** references Lets pass a references through all of our languages... Lets start by reversing the table from the previous examples #+srcname: chained-ref-first #+begin_src python :var table = test-table table.reverse #+end_src Take the first part of the list #+srcname: chained-ref-second #+begin_src R :var table = chained-ref-first table[1] #+end_src Turn the numbers into string #+srcname: chained-ref-third #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table = chained-ref-second (mapcar (lambda (el) (format "%S" el)) table) #+end_src and Check that it is still a list #+srcname: chained-ref-last #+begin_src ruby :var table=chained-ref-third table.class.name #+end_src ** source blocks as functions #+srcname: defun-fibb #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (defun fibbd (n) (if (< n 2) 1 (+ (fibbd (- n 1)) (fibbd (- n 2))))) #+end_src #+srcname: fibonacci #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent :var n=7 (fibbd n) #+end_src * Sandbox :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: sandbox :END: To run these examples evaluate [[file:litorgy/litorgy-init.el][litorgy-init.el]] ** litorgy.el beginning functionality #+begin_src sh :results replace date #+end_src : Thu May 14 18:52:25 EDT 2009 #+begin_src ruby Time.now #+end_src : Thu May 14 18:59:09 -0400 2009 #+begin_src python "Hello World" #+end_src : Hello World ** litorgy-R #+begin_src R :results replace a <- 9 b <- 16 a + b #+end_src : 25 #+begin_src R hist(rgamma(20,3,3)) #+end_src ** litorgy plays with tables Alright, this should demonstrate both the ability of litorgy to read tables into a lisp source code block, and to then convert the results of the source code block into an org table. It's using the classic "lisp is elegant" demonstration transpose function. To try this out... 1. evaluate [[file:litorgy/init.el]] to load litorgy and friends 2. evaluate the transpose definition =\C-c\C-c= on the beginning of the source block 3. evaluate the next source code block, this should read in the table because of the =:var table=previous=, then transpose the table, and finally it should insert the transposed table into the buffer immediately following the block *** Emacs lisp #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (defun transpose (table) (apply #'mapcar* #'list table)) #+end_src #+TBLNAME: sandbox | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | schulte | 6 | #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=sandbox :results replace (transpose table) #+end_src #+begin_src emacs-lisp '(1 2 3 4 5) #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | *** Ruby and Python #+begin_src ruby :var table=sandbox :results replace table.first.join(" - ") #+end_src : "1 - 2 - 3" #+begin_src python :var table=sandbox :results replace table[0] #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | #+begin_src ruby :var table=sandbox :results replace table #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | "schulte" | 6 | #+begin_src python :var table=sandbox :results replace len(table) #+end_src : 2 | "__add__" | "__class__" | "__contains__" | "__delattr__" | "__delitem__" | "__delslice__" | "__doc__" | "__eq__" | "__format__" | "__ge__" | "__getattribute__" | "__getitem__" | "__getslice__" | "__gt__" | "__hash__" | "__iadd__" | "__imul__" | "__init__" | "__iter__" | "__le__" | "__len__" | "__lt__" | "__mul__" | "__ne__" | "__new__" | "__reduce__" | "__reduce_ex__" | "__repr__" | "__reversed__" | "__rmul__" | "__setattr__" | "__setitem__" | "__setslice__" | "__sizeof__" | "__str__" | "__subclasshook__" | "append" | "count" | "extend" | "index" | "insert" | "pop" | "remove" | "reverse" | "sort" | *** (sandbox table) R #+TBLNAME: sandbox_r | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | schulte | 6 | #+begin_src R :results replace x <- c(rnorm(10, mean=-3, sd=1), rnorm(10, mean=3, sd=1)) x #+end_src | -3.35473133869346 | | -2.45714878661 | | -3.32819924928633 | | -2.97310212756194 | | -2.09640758369576 | | -5.06054014378736 | | -2.20713700711221 | | -1.37618039712037 | | -1.95839385821742 | | -3.90407396475502 | | 2.51168071590226 | | 3.96753011570494 | | 3.31793212627865 | | 1.99829753972341 | | 4.00403686419829 | | 4.63723764452927 | | 3.94636744261313 | | 3.58355906547775 | | 3.01563442274226 | | 1.7634976849927 | #+begin_src R var tabel=sandbox_r :results replace tabel #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | "schulte" | 6 | *** shell Now shell commands are converted to tables using =org-table-import= and if these tables are non-trivial (i.e. have multiple elements) then they are imported as org-mode tables... #+begin_src sh :results replace ls -l #+end_src | "total" | 208 | "" | "" | "" | "" | "" | "" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 57 | 2009 | 15 | "block" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 35147 | 2009 | 15 | "COPYING" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 722 | 2009 | 18 | "examples.org" | | "drwxr-xr-x" | 4 | "dan" | "dan" | 4096 | 2009 | 19 | "existing_tools" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 2207 | 2009 | 14 | "intro.org" | | "drwxr-xr-x" | 2 | "dan" | "dan" | 4096 | 2009 | 18 | "litorgy" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 277 | 2009 | 20 | "README.markdown" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 11837 | 2009 | 18 | "rorg.html" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 61829 | 2009 | 19 | "#rorg.org#" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 60190 | 2009 | 19 | "rorg.org" | | "-rw-r--r--" | 1 | "dan" | "dan" | 972 | 2009 | 11 | "test-export.org" | ** silent evaluation #+begin_src ruby :im_the_results #+end_src : :im_the_results #+begin_src ruby :results silent :im_the_results #+end_src #+begin_src ruby :results replace :im_the_results_ #+end_src : :im_the_results_ ** (sandbox) referencing other source blocks Doing this in emacs-lisp first because it's trivial to convert emacs-lisp results to and from emacs-lisp. *** emacs lisp source reference This first example performs a calculation in the first source block named =top=, the results of this calculation are then saved into the variable =first= by the header argument =:var first=top=, and it is used in the calculations of the second source block. #+SRCNAME: top #+begin_src emacs-lisp (+ 4 2) #+end_src #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var first=top :results replace (* first 3) #+end_src : 18 This example is the same as the previous only the variable being passed through is a table rather than a number. #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (defun transpose (table) (apply #'mapcar* #'list table)) #+end_src #+TBLNAME: top_table | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | schulte | 6 | #+SRCNAME: second_src_example #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=top_table (transpose table) #+end_src #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=second_src_example :results replace (transpose table) #+end_src | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 4 | "schulte" | 6 | *** ruby python Now working for ruby #+srcname: start #+begin_src ruby 89 #+end_src #+begin_src ruby :var other=start :results replace 2 * other #+end_src and for python #+SRCNAME: start_two #+begin_src python 98 #+end_src #+begin_src python :var another=start_two :results replace another*3 #+end_src *** mixed languages Since all variables are converted into Emacs Lisp it is no problem to reference variables specified in another language. #+SRCNAME: ruby-block #+begin_src ruby 2 #+end_src #+SRCNAME: lisp_block #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var ruby-variable=ruby-block (* ruby-variable 8) #+end_src #+begin_src python :var lisp_var=lisp_block lisp_var + 4 #+end_src : 20 *** R #+srcname: first_r #+begin_src R :results replace a <- 9 a #+end_src : 9 #+begin_src R :var other=first_r :results replace other + 2 #+end_src : 11 ** (sandbox) selective export For exportation tests and examples see (including exportation of inline source code blocks) [[file:test-export.org]] ** (sandbox) source blocks as functions #+srcname: default #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent 5 #+end_src #+srcname: triple #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var n=default :results replace (* 3 n) #+end_src : 15 #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var result=triple(n=3, m=98) :results replace result #+end_src : 294 The following just demonstrates the ability to assign variables to literal values, which was not implemented until recently. #+begin_src ruby :var num="eric" :results replace num+" schulte " #+end_src : "eric schulte " ** (sandbox) inline source blocks This is an inline source code block src_ruby{1 + 6}. And another source block with text output src_emacs-lisp{"eric"}. This is an inline source code block with header arguments. src_ruby[:var n=fibbd( n = 0 )]{n} ** (sandbox) integration w/org tables #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (defun fibbd (n) (if (< n 2) 1 (+ (fibbd (- n 1)) (fibbd (- n 2))))) #+end_src #+srcname: fibbd #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var n=4 :results silent (fibbd n) #+end_src #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (mapcar #'fibbd '(0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8)) #+end_src Something is not working here. The function `sbe ' works fine when called from outside of the table (see the source block below), but produces an error when called from inside the table. I think there must be some narrowing going on during intra-table emacs-lisp evaluation. | original | fibbd | |----------+-------| | 0 | 1 | | 1 | 1 | | 2 | 2 | | 3 | 3 | | 4 | 5 | | 5 | 8 | | 6 | 13 | | 7 | 21 | | 8 | 34 | | 9 | 55 | #+TBLFM: $2='(sbe "fibbd" (n $1)) silent-result #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent (sbe 'fibbd (n "8")) #+end_src * COMMENT Commentary I'm seeing this as like commit notes, and a place for less formal communication of the goals of our changes. ** Eric <2009-02-06 Fri 15:41> I think we're getting close to a comprehensive set of objectives (although since you two are the real R user's I leave that decision up to you). Once we've agreed on a set of objectives and agreed on at least to broad strokes of implementation, I think we should start listing out and assigning tasks. ** Eric <2009-02-09 Mon 14:25> I've done a fairly destructive edit of this file. The main goal was to enforce a structure on the document that we can use moving forward, so that any future objective changes are all made to the main objective list. I apologize for removing sections written by other people. I did this when they were redundant or it was not clear how to fit them into this structure. Rest assured if the previous text wasn't persisted in git I would have been much more cautious about removing it. I hope that this outline structure should be able to remain stable through the process of fleshing out objectives, and cashing those objectives out into tasks. That said, please feel free to make any changes that you see fit. ** Dan <2009-02-12 Thu 10:23> Good job Eric with major works on this file. ** Eric <2009-02-22 Sun 13:17> So I skipped ahead and got started on the fun part. Namely stubbing out some of the basic functionality. Please don't take any of the decisions I've made so far (on things like names, functionality, design etc...) as final decisions, I'm of course open to and hoping for improvement. So far [[file:litorgy/litorgy.el][litorgy.el]] and [[file:litorgy/litorgy-script.el][litorgy-script.el]] can be used to evaluate source code blocks of simple scripting languages. It shouldn't be too hard (any takers) to write a litorgy-R.el modeled after litorgy-script.el to use for evaluating R code files. See the [[* litorgy.el beginning functionality][Sandbox]] for evaluable examples. ** Eric <2009-02-23 Mon 15:12> While thinking about how to implement the transfer of data between source blocks and the containing org-mode file, I decided it *might* be useful to explicitly support the existence of variables which exist independent of source blocks or tables. I'd appreciate any feedback... (see [[free explicit variables][free explicit variables]]) ** Eric <2009-02-23 Mon 17:53> So as I start populating this file with source code blocks I figure I should share this... I don't know if you guys use [[http://code.google.com/p/smart-snippet/][yasnippet]] at all, but if you do you might find this [[file:block][block-snippet]] org-mode snippet useful (I use it all the time). ** Dan <2009-05-14 Thu 19:13> Please note that I am at an early stage of learning litorgy / studying the code so I may be misunderstanding things. 1. removed prefix arg [[2. evaluate the transpose definition =\C-c\C-c= on the beginning of][here]] 2. changed :replace -> replace 3. added some tasks and bugs * Overview This project is basically about putting source code into org files. This isn't just code to look pretty as a source code example, but code to be evaluated. Org files have 3 main export targets: org, html and latex. Once we have implemented a smooth bi-directional flow of data between org-mode formats (including tables, and maybe lists and property values) and source-code blocks, we will be able to use org-mode's built in export to publish the results of evaluated source code in any org-supported format using org-mode as an intermediate format. We have a current focus on R code, but we are regarding that more as a working example than as a defining feature of the project. The main objectives of this project are... # Lets start with this list and make changes as appropriate. Please # try to make changes to this list, rather than starting any new # lists. - [[* evaluation of embedded source code][evaluation of embedded source code]] - [[* execution on demand and on export][execution on demand and on export]] - [[* source blocks][source blocks]] - [[* header arguments][header arguments]] - [[* inline source evaluation][inline source evaluation]] - [[* included source file evaluation][included source file evaluation]] ?? maybe - [[* caching of evaluation][caching of evaluation]] - [[* interaction with the source-code's process][interaction with the source-code's process]] - [[* output of code evaluation][output of code evaluation]] - [[* textual/numeric output][textual/numeric output]] - [[* graphical output][graphical output]] - [[* file creation][non-graphics file creation]] - [[* side effects][side effects]] - [[* reference to data and evaluation results][reference to data and evaluation results]] - [[* reference format][reference format]] - [[* source-target pairs][source-target pairs]] - [[* source block output from org tables][source block output from org tables]] - [[* source block outpt from other source block][source block outpt from other source block]] - [[* source block output from org list][source block output from org list]] ?? maybe - [[* org table from source block][org table from source block]] - [[* org table from org table][org table from org table]] - [[* org properties from source block][org properties from source block]] - [[* org properties from org table][org properties from org table]] - [[* export][export]] * Objectives and Specs ** evaluation of embedded source code *** execution on demand and on export Let's use an asterisk to indicate content which includes the *result* of code evaluation, rather than the code itself. Clearly we have a requirement for the following transformation: org \to org* Let's say this transformation is effected by a function `org-eval-buffer'. This transformation is necessary when the target format is org (say you want to update the values in an org table, or generate a plot and create an org link to it), and it can also be used as the first step by which to reach html and latex: org \to org* \to html org \to org* \to latex Thus in principle we can reach our 3 target formats with `org-eval-buffer', `org-export-as-latex' and `org-export-as-html'. An extra transformation that we might want is org \to latex I.e. export to latex without evaluation of code, in such a way that R code can subsequently be evaluated using =Sweave(driver=RweaveLatex)=, which is what the R community is used to. This would provide a `bail out' avenue where users can escape org mode and enter a workflow in which the latex/noweb file is treated as source. **** How do we implement `org-eval-buffer'? AIUI The following can all be viewed as implementations of org-eval-buffer for R code: (see this question again posed in [[file:litorgy/litorgy-R.el::Maybe%20the%20following%20be%20replaced%20with%20a%20method%20using%20ess%20execute][litorgy-R.el]]) ***** org-eval-light This is the beginnings of a general evaluation mechanism, that could evaluate python, ruby, shell, perl, in addition to R. The header says it's based on org-eval what is org-eval?? org-eval was written by Carsten. It lives in the org/contrib/lisp directory because it is too dangerous to include in the base. Unlike org-eval-light org-eval evaluates all source blocks in an org-file when the file is first opened, which could be a security nightmare for example if someone emailed you a pernicious file. ***** org-R This accomplishes org \to org* in elisp by visiting code blocks and evaluating code using ESS. ***** RweaveOrg This accomplishes org \to org* using R via : Sweave("file-with-unevaluated-code.org", driver=RweaveOrg, syntax=SweaveSyntaxOrg) ***** org-exp-blocks.el Like org-R, this achieves org \to org* in elisp by visiting code blocks and using ESS to evaluate R code. *** source blocks (see [[* Special editing and evaluation of source code][Special editing and evaluation of source code]]) *** header arguments (see [[* block headers/parameters][block headers/parameters]]) There are going to be many cases where we want to use header arguments to change the evaluation options of source code, to pass external information to a block of source code and control the inclusion of evaluation results. *** inline source evaluation *** included source file evaluation It may be nice to be able to include an entire external file of source code, and then evaluate and export that code as if it were in the file. The format for such a file inclusion could optionally look like the following : #+include_src filename header_arguments *** caching of evaluation Any kind of code that can have a block evaluated could optionally define a function to write the output to a file, or to serialize the output of the function. If a document or block is configured to cache input, write all cached blocks to their own files and either a) hash them, or b) let git and org-attach track them. Before a block gets eval'd, we check to see if it has changed. If a document or block is configured to cache output and a print/serialize function is available, write the output of each cached block to its own file. When the file is eval'd and some sort of display is called for, only update the display if the output has changed. Each of these would have an override, presumably something like (... & force) that could be triggered with a prefix arg to the eval or export function. For R, I would say #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; fake code that only pretends to work (add-hook 'rorg-store-output-hook '("r" lambda (block-environment block-label) (ess-exec (concat "save.image(" block-environment ", file = " block-label ".Rdata, compress=TRUE)")))) #+end_src The idea being that for r blocks that get eval'd, if output needs to be stored, you should write the entire environment that was created in that block to an Rdata file. (see [[* block scoping][block scoping]]) ** interaction with the source-code's process We should settle on a uniform API for sending code and receiving output from a source process. Then to add a new language all we need to do is implement this API. for related notes see ([[* Interaction with the R process][Interaction with the R process]]) ** output of code evaluation *** textual/numeric output We (optionally) incorporate the text output as text in the target document *** graphical output We either link to the graphics or (html/latex) include them inline. I would say, if the block is being evaluated interactively then lets pop up the image in a new window, and if it is being exported then we can just include a link to the file which will be exported appropriately by org-mode. *** non-graphics files ? We link to other file output *** side effects If we are using a continuous process in (for example an R process handled by ESS) then any side effects of the process (for example setting values of R variables) will be handled automatically Are there side-effects which need to be considered aside from those internal to the source-code evaluation process? ** reference to data and evaluation results I think this will be very important. I would suggest that since we are using lisp we use lists as our medium of exchange. Then all we need are functions going converting all of our target formats to and from lists. These functions are already provided by for org tables. It would be a boon both to org users and R users to allow org tables to be manipulated with the R programming language. Org tables give R users an easy way to enter and display data; R gives org users a powerful way to perform vector operations, statistical tests, and visualization on their tables. This means that we will need to consider unique id's for source blocks, as well as for org tables, and for any other data source or target. *** Implementations **** naive Naive implementation would be to use =(org-export-table "tmp.csv")= and =(ess-execute "read.csv('tmp.csv')")=. **** org-R org-R passes data to R from two sources: org tables, or csv files. Org tables are first exported to a temporary csv file using [[file:existing_tools/org-R.el::defun%20org%20R%20export%20to%20csv%20csv%20file%20options][org-R-export-to-csv]]. **** org-exp-blocks org-exp-blocks uses [[org-interblock-R-command-to-string]] to send commands to an R process running in a comint buffer through ESS. org-exp-blocks has no support for dumping table data to R process, or vice versa. **** RweaveOrg NA *** reference format This will be tricky, Dan has already come up with a solution for R, I need to look more closely at that and we should try to come up with a formats for referencing data from source-code in such a way that it will be as source-code-language independent as possible. Org tables already have a sophisticated reference system in place that allows referencing table ranges in other files, as well as specifying constants in the header arguments of a table. This is described in [[info:org:References]]. **** Dan: thinking aloud re: referencing data from R Suppose in some R code, we want to reference data in an org table. I think that requires the use of 'header arguments', since otherwise, under pure evaluation of a code block without header args, R has no way to locate the data in the org buffer. So that suggests a mechanism like that used by org-R whereby table names or unique entry IDs are used to reference org tables (and indeed potentially row/column ranges within org tables, although that subsetting could also be done in R). Specifically what org-R does is write the table to a temp csv file, and tell R the name of that file. However: 1. We are not limited to a single source of input; the same sort of thing could be done for several sources of input 2. I don't think we even have to use temp files. An alternative would be to have org pass the table contents as a csv-format string to textConnection() in R, thus creating an arbitrary number of input objects in the appropriate R environment (scope) from which the R code can read data when necessary. That suggests a header option syntax something like #+begin_src emacs-lisp '(:R-obj-name-1 tbl-name-or-id-1 :R-obj-name-2 tbl-name-or-id-2) #+end_src As a result of passing that option, the code would be able to access the data referenced by table-name-or-id-2 via read.table(R-obj-name-1). An extension of that idea would be to allow remote files to be used as data sources. In this case one might need just the remote file (if it's a csv file), or if it's an org file then the name of the file plus a table reference within that org file. Thus maybe something like #+begin_src emacs-lisp '((R-obj-name-1 . (:tblref tbl-name-or-id-1 :file file-1)) (R-obj-name-2 . (:tblref tbl-name-or-id-2 :file file-2))) #+end_src emacs-lisp **** Eric: referencing data in general So here's some thoughts for referencing data (henceforth referred to as *resources*). I think this is the next thing we need to tackle for implementation to move forward. We don't need to implement everything below right off the bat, but I'd like to get these lists as full as possible so we don't make any implementation assumptions which preclude real needs. We need to reference resources of the following types... - table (list) - output from a source code block (list or hash) - property values of an outline header (hash) - list (list) - description list (hash) - more?... All of these resources will live in org files which could be - the current file (default) - another file on the same system (path) - another file on the web (url) - another file in a git repo (file and commit hash) What information should each of these resources be able to supply? I'm thinking (again not that we'll implement all of these but just to think of them)... - ranges or points of vector data - key/value pairs from a hash - when the object was last modified - commit info (author, date, message, sha, etc...) - pointers to the resources upon which the resource relies So we need a referencing syntax powerful enough to handle all of these alternatives. Maybe something like =path:sha:name:range= where - path :: is empty for the current file, is a path for files on the same system, and is a url otherwise - sha :: is an option git commit indicator - name :: is the table/header/source-block name or id for location inside of the org file (this would not be optional) - range :: would indicate which information is requested from the resource, so it could be a range to access parts of a table, or the names of properties to be referenced from an outline header Once we agree on how this should work, I'll try to stub out some code, so that we can get some simple subset of this functionality working, hopefully something complex enough to do the following... - [[* resource reference example][resource-reference-example]] ***** questions ****** multiple outputs Do we want things like a source code block to leave multiple outputs, or do we only want them to be able to output one vector or hash? ****** environment (state and side-effects) This design assumes that any changes will explicitly pass data in a functional programming style. This makes no assumptions about things like source code blocks changing state (in general state changes lead to more difficult debugging). - Do we want to take steps so ensure we do things like execute consecutive R blocks in different environment, or do we want to allow state changes? - Does this matter? ****** passing arguments to resources So I(eric) may be getting ahead of myself here, but what do you think about the ability to pass arguments to resources. I'm having visions of google map-reduce, processes spread out across multiple machines. Maybe we could do this by allowing the arguments to be specified? *** source-target pairs The following can be used for special considerations based on source-target pairs Dan: I don't quite understand this subtree; Eric -- could you give a little more explanation of this and of your comment above regarding using [[lists as our medium of exchange]]? **** source block output from org tables **** source block outpt from other source block **** source block output from org list **** org table from source block **** org table from org table **** org properties from source block **** org properties from org table ** export once the previous objectives are met export should be fairly simple. Basically it will consist of triggering the evaluation of source code blocks with the org-export-preprocess-hook. This block export evaluation will be aware of the target format through the htmlp and latexp variables, and can then create quoted =#+begin_html= and =#+begin_latex= blocks appropriately. There will also need to be a set of header arguments related to code export. These would be similar to the results header arguments but would apply to how to handle execution and results during export. * Notes ** Block Formats Unfortunately org-mode how two different block types, both useful. In developing RweaveOrg, a third was introduced. Eric is leaning towards using the =#+begin_src= blocks, as that is really what these blocks contain: source code. Austin believes that specifying export options at the beginning of a block is useful functionality, to be preserved if possible. Note that upper and lower case are not relevant in block headings. *** PROPOSED block format I (Eric) propose that we use the syntax of source code blocks as they currently exist in org-mode with the addition of *evaluation*, *header-arguments*, *exportation*, *single-line-blocks*, and *references-to-table-data*. 1) *evaluation*: These blocks can be evaluated through =\C-c\C-c= with a slight addition to the code already present and working in [[file:existing_tools/org-eval-light.el][org-eval-light.el]]. All we should need to add for R support would be an appropriate entry in [[org-eval-light-interpreters]] with a corresponding evaluation function. For an example usinga org-eval-light see [[* src block evaluation w/org-eval-light]]. 2) *header-arguments*: These can be implemented along the lines of Austin's header arguments in [[file:existing_tools/RweaveOrg/org-sweave.el][org-sweave.el]]. 3) *exportation*: Should be as similar as possible to that done by Sweave, and hopefully can re-use some of the code currently present in [[file:existing_tools/exp-blocks/org-exp-blocks.el ][org-exp-blocks.el]]. 4) *single-line-blocks*: It seems that it is useful to be able to place a single line of R code on a line by itself. Should we add syntax for this similar to Dan's =#+RR:= lines? I would lean towards something here that can be re-used for any type of source code in the same manner as the =#+begin_src R= blocks, maybe =#+src_R=? Dan: I'm fine with this, but don't think single-line blocks are a priority. My =#+R= lines were something totally different: an attempt to have users specify R code implicitly, using org-mode option syntax. 5) *references-to-table-data*: I get this impression that this is vital to the efficient use of R code in an org file, so we should come up with a way to reference table data from a single-line-block or from an R source-code block. It looks like Dan has already done this in [[file:existing_tools/org-R.el][org-R.el]]. Syntax Multi-line Block : #+begin_src lang header-arguments : body : #+end - lang :: the language of the block (R, shell, elisp, etc...) - header-arguments :: a list of optional arguments which control how the block is evaluated and exported, and how the results are handled - body :: the actual body of the block Single-line Block : #+begin_src lang body - It's not clear how/if we would include header-arguments into a single line block. Suggestions? Can we just leave them out? Dan: I'm not too worried about single line blocks to start off with. Their main advantage seems to be that they save 2 lines. Eric: Fair enough, lets not worry about this now, also I would guess that any code simple enough to fit on one line wouldn't need header arguments anyways. Include Block : #+include_src lang filename header-arguments - I think this would be useful, and should be much more work (Dan: didn't get the meaning of that last clause!?). Eric: scratch that, I meant "*shouldn't* be too much work" :) That way whole external files of source code could be evaluated as if they were an inline block. Dan: again I'd say not a massive priority, as I think all the languages we have in mind have facilities for doing this natively, thus I think the desired effect can often be achieved from within a #+begin_src block. Eric: Agreed, while this would be a nice thing to include we shouldn't wast too much effort on it in the beginning. What do you think? Does this accomplish everything we want to be able to do with embedded R source code blocks? ***** src block evaluation w/org-eval-light here's an example using org-eval-light.el first load the org-eval-light.el file [[elisp:(load (expand-file-name "org-eval-light.el" (expand-file-name "existing_tools" (file-name-directory buffer-file-name))))]] then press =\C-c\C-c= inside of the following src code snippet. The results should appear in a comment immediately following the source code block. It shouldn't be too hard to add R support to this function through the `org-eval-light-interpreters' variable. (Dan: The following causes error on export to HTML hence spaces inserted at bol) #+begin_src shell date #+end_src *** existing formats **** Source code blocks Org has an extremely useful method of editing source code and examples in their native modes. In the case of R code, we want to be able to use the full functionality of ESS mode, including interactive evaluation of code. Source code blocks look like the following and allow for the special editing of code inside of the block through `org-edit-special'. #+BEGIN_SRC r ,## hit C-c ' within this block to enter a temporary buffer in r-mode. ,## while in the temporary buffer, hit C-c C-c on this comment to ,## evaluate this block a <- 3 a ,## hit C-c ' to exit the temporary buffer #+END_SRC **** dblocks dblocks are useful because org-mode will automatically call `org-dblock-write:dblock-type' where dblock-type is the string following the =#+BEGIN:= portion of the line. dblocks look like the following and allow for evaluation of the code inside of the block by calling =\C-c\C-c= on the header of the block. #+BEGIN: dblock-type #+END: **** R blocks In developing RweaveOrg, Austin created [[file:existing_tools/RweaveOrg/org-sweave.el][org-sweave.el]]. This allows for the kind of blocks shown in [[file:existing_tools/RweaveOrg/testing.Rorg][testing.Rorg]]. These blocks have the advantage of accepting options to the Sweave preprocessor following the #+BEGIN_R declaration. *** block headers/parameters Regardless of the syntax/format chosen for the source blocks, we will need to be able to pass a list of parameters to these blocks. These should include (but should certainly not be limited to) - label or id :: Label of the block, should we provide facilities for automatically generating a unique one of these? - file :: names of file to which graphical/textual/numerical/tabular output should be written. Do we need this, or should this be controlled through the source code itself? - results :: indication of where the results should be placed, maybe the following values... - append :: *default* meaning just append to the current buffer immediately following the current source block - replace :: like append, but replace any results currently there - file :: save the results in a new file, and place a link to the file into the current buffer immediately following the source code block - table :: save the results into a table, maybe use a table id:range to identify which table and where therein - nil :: meaning just discard the results - not sure of a good name here :: flags for when/if the block should be evaluated (on export etc...) - again can't thing of a concise name :: flags for how the results of the export should be displayed/included - scope :: flag indicating whether the block should have a local or global scope - flags specific to the language of the source block - etc... I think fleshing out this list is an important next step. ** Interaction with the R process We should take care to implement this in such a way that all of the different components which have to interactive with R including: - evaluation of source code blocks - automatic evaluation on export - evaluation of \R{} snippets - evaluation of single source code lines - evaluation of included source code files - sending/receiving vector data I think we currently have two implementations of interaction with R processes; [[file:existing_tools/org-R.el][org-R.el]] and [[file:existing_tools/exp-blocks/org-exp-blocks.el ][org-exp-blocks.el]]. We should be sure to take the best of each of these approaches. More on the exchange of data at between org-mode and source code blocks at [[* reference to data and evaluation results][reference to data and evaluation results]]. ** block scoping (see [[* caching of evaluation][caching of evaluation]]) This inadvertently raises the issue of scoping. The pretend function pretends that we will create a block-local scope, and that we can save just the things in that scope. Sweave takes the make-everything-global approach. I can see advantages either way. If we make block-local scopes, we can save each one independently, and generally speaking it seems like more granularity==more control. If we make everything global, we can refer to entities declared in earlier blocks without having to explicitly import those entities into the current block. I think this counts in the "need to think about it early on" category. If we did want block-local scopes, in R we can start every eval with something like ;; fake code that pretends to create a new, empty environment (ess-exec (concat block-env " <- new.env()")) (ess-exec (concat "eval(" block-contents ", envir=" block-env ")")) If we decide we want block-scoping, I'm sure Dan and I can figure out the right way to do this in R, if he hasn't already. I haven't thought at all about how these scope issues generalize to, say, bash blocks. Maybe this is something that should be controlled by a header argument? ** =\C-c\C-c= evaluation With org-mode version at least 6.23, see the documentation for [[info:org:Context-sensitive%20commands][info:org:Context-sensitive commands]]. ** free explicit variables Maybe we should have some idea of variables independent of any particular type of source code or source block. These could be variables that have a value inside of the scope of the org-mode file, and they could be used as a transport mechanism for information transfer between org-tables, org-lists, and different source-blocks. Each type of source code (and org-mode types like tables, lists, etc...) would need to implement functions for converting different types of data to and from these variables (which would be elisp variables). So for example say we want to read the values from a table into an R block, perform some calculations, and then write the results back into the table. We could 1) assign the table to a variable - the table would be converted into a lisp vector (list of lists) - the vector would be saved in the variable 2) an R source block would reference the variable - the variable would be instantiated into an R variable (through mechanisms mentioned [[* Dan: thinking aloud re: referencing data from R][elsewhere]]) - the R code is executed, and the value of the variable *inside of R* is updated - when the R block finished the value of the variable *globally in the org buffer* would be updated 3) optionally the global value of the variable would be converted back into an org-mode table and would be used to overwrite the existing table. What do you think? This might not be too different from what we were already talking about, but I think the introduction of the idea of having variables existing independently of any tables or source code blocks is novel and probably has some advantages (and probably shortfalls). * Buffer Dictionary LocalWords: DBlocks dblocks litorgy el eric litorgical fontification